CAN I JUST SAY HOW REFRESHING IT IS FOR JOHN TO BE CALLING CALIBORN OUT ON HIS MISOGYNISTIC BULLSHIT
caliborn is such a weird fucking creep ugh
You realize this is really out of character, and Hussie is doing this to bump up his self image, and its working, right?
hussie specifically making a blatantly misogynistic character for no real good reason other than to make that an attribute of the villain (which is suuuuch a tired character trait uuuugh) and having another character say something that contradicts his typically oblivious and aloof personality throws off the storyline (if homestuck can even qualify for having one) and serves only as instant gratification from the fans to the white male author, and totally renders the point he supposedly was trying to make moot because instead of actually shedding light on the frequency of objectification and invalidation of female characters in media now he’s getting credit for being some great open minded anti-misogynistic guy! y’know, despite the fact he created a super misogynistic character for no real reason other than to perpetuate popular media that contains misogynistic characters and elements? y’know, the average viewer who is unaware and uneducated on rampant misogyny is just going to take caliborn’s behavior as normal, hussie isn’t being some brave and progressive author here.
this is a ploy, i basically just repeated everything nicolette said but yeah im really bothered by this
THIS FUCKING THANK U
Out of character? Really?
I mean, look at this shit.
How the hell would you react if you saw someone playing shitty story book with your best friends?
Those aren’t just girls that Caliborn is playing house with, those are his friends. Some are his direct family (Hell, he still associates Jane with his Nana), one is a very close friend of his who he cares a lot about, and one is a girl he just met and made friends with.
John is a character that is quick to emote, even if the stuff he’s emoting about is fucking stupid. When he found out that his dad was a normal business man he freaked out. When he found out that Gushers were a Betty Crocker product he freaked out. When he found out that Davesprite broke up with Jade and then proceeded to mock his dead father HE FREAKED THE FUCK OUT. He freaked out in an entirely different way when he was reunited with his friends, some of which he had only known for a day, all of which he hadn’t heard from in three years. The guy he knows for a day and didn’t see for three years is stabbed and he freaks out.
The point is that John isn’t aloof.
Couple his hotheadedness with the fact that his friends (oh yeah, remember when friendship made him reconsider flying off to his death. Or the time he made his friend look good in her paradox mother’s eyes because he knew she deserved it. Or all the things Vriska convinced him to do because friendship? Or maybe when he kissed a friend’s dead corpse because it was the only way to revive her dreamself? Or when he refused to jump on the meteor with all his other friends because he didn’t want to leave Jade alone by herself?) are being insulted and used in some creepy way by someone he can’t even see? OF COURSE HE WOULD FREAK THE FUCK OUT!
As for Caliborn, have you heard some thirteen year old boys lately? Not all of them, just the little shitheads who thinks they’re hot (like the ones you can find screaming into your headphones during COD, calling you a faggot). You know what they do? They treat women like shit. You know why? No? Most of the time it’s because they can get away with it, there’s usually a female figure at home that they’re allowed to walk all over, or a female figure that intimidates them so they have to pretend that they are able to walk all over them.
I wonder where we can find one of those.
Someone he has a particular sort of animosity toward…
maybe even someone who intimidates him mentally, or who is more talented or liked then him…
Oh where oh where could this mystery girl be…
Clearly Caliborn has utterly no reason to viciously attack and demean women to the point that he sees them fit only as sexual partners.
Caliborn’s misogyny is never depicted in a good light. If anything, it is there to nail down the fact that Caliborn is really fucking dumb. He’s stupid and lucky, and soon to be very powerful which are not things that should be melded together.
If anything, Caliborn is the PERFECT personification of the 12 year old on a headset during COD who keeps sniping you in the head. The misogyny doesn’t feel random, it feels like that loud mouth kid who doesn’t understand half the words he’s screaming into your ear while he goes around and shoots everything in sight, teammate or not.
He is a chaotic brat without the maturity to understand the full scope of his actions or his words.
And just because a writer makes a straw misogynist, doesn’t mean the writing is inherently bad. See: Firefly, PMMM, Mulan, Wonder Woman, Star Trek, Doctor Who (early years), AVATAR THE LAST FUCKING AIRBENDER.
Look, Hussie can be a piece of shit sometimes. I have followed the comic for years and this I’ve learned. I’m not defending him here. Maybe he did it for asspats, maybe he did it because it’s in character, or maybe he did it for the same reasons the writers above did. I don’t particularly care. But if you’re going to bash the actions of the characters, at least make an attempt to understand the characters beforehand.